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		<title>Wiping Away Our Tears</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the Bible states that God will wipe away evey tear, does that mean, despite dying or being raptured, we will feel sadness and cry until the very end when God does this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Q.</strong> When the Bible states that God will wipe away every tear, does that mean, despite dying or being raptured, we will feel sadness and cry until the very end when God does this?</p>
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<p><strong>A.</strong> There are two places in the Revelation where God wipes away the tears of His people.  One is in <strong>Rev. 7:17</strong> and pertains to Tribulation Martyrs newly arrived in Heaven, and the other is in <strong>Rev. 21:4</strong> speaking of believers in the New Jerusalem at the beginning of the Millennium. In both cases the idea is that once a child of God arrives at his/her eternal home the old order of things passes away and  eternal bliss characterizes the future. Once we leave Earth there are no more tears.</p>
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		<title>The First Tribulation Martyrs</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q. I have been wondering about the statement in Revelation 6:9 for long time.
In this verse John said, &#8220;I saw under the alter the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God&#8230;&#8221;.
What got to me is, John only mentioned &#8220;the souls of those who had been slain because of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Q.</strong> I have been wondering about the statement in Revelation 6:9 for long time.<br />
In this verse John said, &#8220;I saw under the alter the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>What got to me is, John only mentioned &#8220;the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God&#8221; and he did not see the souls of other believers who had died due to old age, sickness of killed by accidents, etc. And too, how about the souls of people like Noah, Abraham, Job, David, Samuel, etc. etc. Aren&#8217;t they too suppose to be under the alter as well?</p>
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<p><strong>A. </strong>The souls John referred to in <strong>Rev. 6:9</strong> are the first of the Tribulation Martyrs.  I&#8217;m not aware of any place that says people who die of other causes, or Old Testament saints, will also petition the Lord for vengeance in this way.</p>
<p>In  <strong>Rev. 6:11</strong> they&#8217;re told to be patient until the number of all those who would be killed in this way (martyred) was completed.  This confirms that John only had Triblation Martyrs in view here.</p>
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		<title>Seeing The Church in Rev. 4</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q. I would like to know how you perceive that the rapture as you say quote &#8220;And then there’s the Book of Revelation. John shows the Rapture occurring in chapter 4&#8243; unquote&#8230;.where in chapter 4 gives you the indication that the rapture has happened?

A. The Revelation is a book of signs and symbols.  This is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Q.</strong> I would like to know how you perceive that the rapture as you say quote &#8220;And then there’s the Book of Revelation. John shows the Rapture occurring in chapter 4&#8243; unquote&#8230;.where in chapter 4 gives you the indication that the rapture has happened?</p>
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<p><strong>A.</strong> The Revelation is a book of signs and symbols.  This is explained in the first verse where it says that Jesus signified it to John.  This means he rendered it into signs.</p>
<p><strong>Revelation 4</strong> is one of 4 views of the throne of God in the Bible. In <strong>Isaiah 6</strong> and <strong>Ezekiel 1</strong> there is no mention of thrones other than the Throne of God.  Daniel had a vision of the Throne in the end times and saw other &#8220;thrones&#8221;, but gave no detail. (<strong>Daniel 7:9</strong>)  John&#8217;s view is the only one to identify 24 other thrones and describe those seated upon them.  They were elders, indicating they were not angels but men.  They were seated, not standing, meaning they were in a position of authority. They were dressed in white and had crowns on their heads. The Greek word translated crown there means the victor&#8217;s crown, or the crown of the over comer.  When King David organized the priesthood into 24 divisions, the number 24 became associated with priests.  But priests didn&#8217;t wear crowns and didn&#8217;t sit on thrones, only kings did.</p>
<p>So in <strong>Rev. 4</strong> we see 24 thrones on which are seated elders who are over comers and have the appearance of kings and priests, and who have never been present in any previous view of the Throne of God. In <strong>Rev. 5:9</strong> they sing a new song, the words to which are,</p>
<p><em>&#8220;You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals;  For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation, And have made us kings and priests to our God; And we shall reign on the earth.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Only the Church can sing this song.  The 24 Elders signify the newly raptured Church.</p>
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		<title>Understanding Rev. 20-22</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q. The question you recently answered on Revelation 22 reminded me I had one, too. The timing of things confuses me.  It looks like we&#8217;ve had the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20.  So why are there still liars &#38; murders &#38; idolaters outside the gates of the city?  Is the city the New [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Q.</strong> The question you recently answered on Revelation 22 reminded me I had one, too. The timing of things confuses me.  It looks like we&#8217;ve had the Great White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20.  So why are there still liars &amp; murders &amp; idolaters outside the gates of the city?  Is the city the New Jerusalem?</p>
<p>We are grateful to you for all your help, and grateful to the Lord for you.</p>
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<p><strong>A. </strong>A careful reading of <strong>Rev. 20</strong> shows that Verses 7-15 are a parenthetical insert  that John used to carry the dispositions of Satan and the unbelievers to their final conclusion while he was on the subject.  Then in <strong>Rev. 21</strong> he returned to the beginning of the Millennium to describe the New Jerusalem, home of the Church.</p>
<p>There are several clues in the text that support this view.  First, <strong>Rev. 20:7</strong> begins, &#8220;when the thousand years are over&#8221; indicating that John has skipped to the end of the  Millennium.  Second, <strong>Rev. 21:1</strong> is a direct quote from <strong>Isaiah 65:17</strong> where the context is clearly Israel&#8217;s Kingdom Age, aka the Millennium, and third the first 5 verses of <strong>Rev.22</strong> are a summary of <strong>Ezekiel 47</strong>, which is also about the Kingdom Age in Israel. And then there&#8217;s the mention of the trees growing a different fruit each month in verse 2.  This reference to time confirms that John was not talking about eternity, which by definition is the absence of time.</p>
<p>In my opinion the view that <strong>Rev. 21-22</strong> are about our eternal state is incorrect.</p>
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		<title>Drying Up The Euphrates</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q. On Monday, July 13th, the New York Times published an article that says the Euphrates River is drying up because of an extended drought and also due to Syria and Turkeys water policies.  I would like your thoughts as to whether this might be a “set up” for the reference in Revelation 16 of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Q.</strong> On Monday, July 13th, the New York Times published an article that says the Euphrates River is drying up because of an extended drought and also due to Syria and Turkeys water policies.  I would like your thoughts as to whether this might be a “set up” for the reference in Revelation 16 of the angel pouring out  of the vial and drying up the river for the kings of the east to cross for their attack on Jerusalem (which will lead to the final battle, Armageddon)</p>
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<p>&#8221; And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.&#8221;  Rev. 16:12 (KJV)</p>
<p><strong>A.</strong> It&#8217;s pretty early for the Euphrates to be drying up due to supernatural intervention like <strong>Rev. 16</strong> calls for.  More likely it&#8217;s just what it appears to be, the effects of drought combined with poor water policies.  This is not the first time such a thing has happened to the Euphrates.  About 10 years ago the National Geographic ran a story on Turkey&#8217;s ability to control the flow of the river, and how upset the down stream countries were about it.</p>
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		<title>Understanding Rev. 22:1-6</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 00:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q. Revelation 22 gives a description of our heavenly home, it&#8217;s awesome!  Verse two states that &#8220;the tree of life,  which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding it&#8217;s fruit every month.&#8221;  What is your understanding on the monthly time cycles mentioned here, when we&#8217;ll then be in eternity.  Won&#8217;t time cycles, as we have now, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Q.</strong> Revelation 22 gives a description of our heavenly home, it&#8217;s awesome!  Verse two states that &#8220;the tree of life,  which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding it&#8217;s fruit every month.&#8221;  What is your understanding on the monthly time cycles mentioned here, when we&#8217;ll then be in eternity.  Won&#8217;t time cycles, as we have now, be no more?</p>
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<p><strong>A. </strong> Let&#8217;s correct two widely held but mistaken assumptions about <strong>Rev. 22:1-6</strong>.  Correction number one is this river will be in Israel on Earth, not in the New Jerusalem.  So as lovely as the passage is, it doesn&#8217;t describe the heavenly home of the Church. Our home is described in <strong>Rev. 21:9-27.</strong></p>
<p>And the second is that due to the mention of time and growing cycles this passage has to be talking about the Millennium, not eternity.  These verses are a summarized version of Ezekiel&#8217;s view of the Kingdom Age in Israel which he described more fully in chapter 47.  Beyond telling us there is one, The Bible doesn&#8217;t give any detail about eternity.</p>
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		<title>The New Jerusalem?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q. Thank you for taking time to answer questions and working so hard with your website!  I have something I have been wondering about: when you say that the new city of Jerusalem will probably orbit just above the earth, what scriptures can you find to show this point of view? I can remember one [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Q.</strong> Thank you for taking time to answer questions and working so hard with your website!  I have something I have been wondering about: when you say that the new city of Jerusalem will probably orbit just above the earth, what scriptures can you find to show this point of view? I can remember one about John saying that the city came down from heaven but he never said that it landed on earth. Can you help me find some more please?</p>
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<p><strong>A. </strong> The verse that describes the Holy city coming down out of heaven but doesn&#8217;t mention it landing (<strong>Rev. 21:2</strong>) is the only one. The rest is deduction.  <strong>Rev. 21:16</strong> says the city is 12,000 stadia square and just as tall.   12,000 stadia is roughly equivalent to 1,400 miles.  That means if it landed on Earth it would have a footprint bigger than all of Israel.  In fact it would cover most of Western Europe.    And 1,400 miles in height would make it 4,000 times taller than the next tallest building on Earth. If it was shaped like a ball, it would be 1/6th the size of Earth. (Most scholars believe it will be shaped like either a cube or a Pyramid.)</p>
<p>Since the Earth spins on its axis at the rate of about 1,000 miles per hour, something that big simply couldn&#8217;t sit on its surface without causing it to spin off into outer space and fly apart.</p>
<p>So, John saw it coming down out of Heaven, the Kings of Earth bring their splendor into it, and its light illuminates the Earth (<strong>Rev. 21:24</strong>) But nothing impure can ever enter it (<strong>Rev. 21:27</strong>)  That tells me it has to be close enough to be near Earth, but far enough away to prevent it from de-stabilizing Earth&#8217;s orbit. To me that describes a low orbit satellite, but that&#8217;s just my opinion.  We&#8217;ll all be truly amazed when we see what it&#8217;s really like.</p>
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		<title>A Partial Rapture In Rev. 2-3?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 00:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q. When you say there is nothing in the Bible that supports a partial rapture, my mind is drawn to the messages given to the seven churches of Revelation 2-3. With the exception of a couple, most of the churches were doing just fine, although the church of Philadelphia is the only one that receives [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Q.</strong> When you say there is nothing in the Bible that supports a partial rapture, my mind is drawn to the messages given to the seven churches of Revelation 2-3. With the exception of a couple, most of the churches were doing just fine, although the church of Philadelphia is the only one that receives no correction. They are also the only ones promised to be spared from the time of wrath.</p>
<p><span id="more-9843"></span>Although I know the seven churches represent churches that literally existed at the time as well as prophetic throughout the church age, pretty much modern Christians can be classified into the seven descriptions of those churches. Is it possible the letters to the churches pertain to what you are saying here and that only the &#8216;Philadelphia style&#8217; Christians go while the rest of the Christians stay behind?</p>
<p>Thanks for your time if you can reply! Also, what about the virgins when some were taken but some were left behind?</p>
<p><strong>A.</strong> Don&#8217;t make the mistake of thinking that every person who attended those seven congregations was part of the Church. The leadership in each one (except Philadelphia) was accused of promoting false doctrine. Read my study on the <a href="http://gracethrufaith.com/selah/holidays-and-holy-days/who-are-the-overcomers-2/">overcomers of Rev. 2-3</a> to see what I mean.</p>
<p>All born again believers will go in the rapture.  I&#8217;m guessing that when it happens almost every congregation will find some of their members have been left behind. Just because you attend a church doesn&#8217;t make you a Christian. You must be born again. (<strong>John 3:7</strong>)</p>
<p>The parable of the 10 virgins is about tribulation believers at the time of the 2nd Coming and has nothing to do with the Rapture. <a href="http://gracethrufaith.com/selah/parables/the-parable-of-the-ten-virgins/">Click here</a> for my study on this parable.</p>
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		<title>Living In Heaven, Reigning On Earth?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q. I have further questions on your article of June 25th.  In it you say we will live in heaven with Christ, and yes I understand our home  (or mansion)  will be made there.  How does Revelation 20:4-6 fit into this?  If we are reigning with Christ for that 1000 years it must be on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Q.</strong> I have further questions on your article of June 25th.  In it you say we will live in heaven with Christ, and yes I understand our home  (or mansion)  will be made there.  How does Revelation 20:4-6 fit into this?  If we are reigning with Christ for that 1000 years it must be on earth.  God reigns in heaven forever and there is no other need to reign there.</p>
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<p><strong>A. </strong> You&#8217;re making an assumption that sounds logical but isn&#8217;t necessarily so.  Who says we have to live on Earth?  <strong>John 14:2-3</strong> clearly says that Jesus went to Heaven to prepare a place for us there, and that&#8217;s where He&#8217;s going to take us in the Rapture. <strong>Rev. 20:4-6</strong> says that those from the first resurrection will reign with Christ, but it says nothing about where we&#8217;ll live.</p>
<p>We find out from <strong>Rev. 21</strong> that the home He built for us and will take us to is the New Jerusalem which is seen coming down out of heaven.  But  it never says that it lands on Earth.  In fact a comparison of its dimensions shows that it&#8217;s too big to fit in Israel or any other place on Earth.  Personally, I believe the New Jerusalem, which is 1/6th the size of Earth, will orbit Earth in close proximity like a satellite would. From there we&#8217;ll reign with Christ.</p>
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		<title>A Question On Rev. 2-3</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q. While reading Revelation this morning, I was struck by something&#8230;when the churches are being called to correct something, they are all called to correct their ACTIONS, not their heart or beliefs, and if they don&#8217;t correct their actions, they will have their lampstands removed etc.   This seems to fly in the face of grace [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Q.</strong> While reading Revelation this morning, I was struck by something&#8230;when the churches are being called to correct something, they are all called to correct their ACTIONS, not their heart or beliefs, and if they don&#8217;t correct their actions, they will have their lampstands removed etc.   This seems to fly in the face of grace through faith and I would love to have it explained.<br />
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And even more specifically the &#8220;eating meats sacrificed to idols&#8221;.   Peter was told not to call unclean what the Lord had called clean, and was told to &#8220;kill and eat&#8221;.   Paul seems to say in 1Cor 8 that eating meat from idols is no big deal.  Is there anything equivalent to meat sacrificed to idols in the US that we should avoid?</p>
<p><strong>A. </strong> If you read carefully, you&#8217;ll see that everything the Lord warned them about had to do with religious works or pagan practices they added to their worship instead of relying on faith alone. He warned them to overcome the human tendency to add works to faith, because if they didn&#8217;t it would destroy them.</p>
<p>The two passages you cited tell us that the phrase about eating meat sacrificed to idols is symbolic.  It actually refers to paying homage to false gods. The most frequent modern equivalent is taking credit for our own successes, when what we&#8217;ve really done is use abilities God gave us to take advantage of opportunities He provided. (<strong>Deut 8:18</strong> &amp; <strong>Romans 8:28</strong>)</p>
<p>For more detail on who the overcomers of <strong>Rev. 2-3</strong> are and what they do, <a href="http://gracethrufaith.com/selah/holidays-and-holy-days/who-are-the-overcomers-2/">click here</a>.</p>
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