Israel And The Church. Mutually Exclusive?


In the Bible study of the last chapter in Daniel, you commented that God does not work with both the church and Israel at the same time.

I kinda disagree with you, and you are invited to disagree with me too. There is two occasions that God did in fact work with Israel and the Church. The first time was between the first day of the creation of the Church at Pentecost to the destruction of the Temple 70 AD, and between the re-establishment of the nation of Israel (1948 or 1967 when Jerusalem became under Israel control) to the Rapture of the Church. These in my view is when Israel and the Church co-exist. In both case the duration was and will be short lived.


During the time between Pentecost and the destruction of the Temple Israel existed but received no favor from God.

For example, each Yom Kippur when they brought the goat to be sacrificed for the sins of the people, they tied a scarlet ribbon from the horn of the goat to the door of the temple. Before taking the goat into the wilderness to be killed they snipped the ribbon leaving part on the temple and part on the goat’s horn. Each year as the goat died the ribbon on the temple door turned from red to white in fulfillment of Isaiah 1:18

Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow.

This was the confirmation that their sins had been set aside. In the 38 years between the cross and the Temple’s destruction the ribbon never turned white.

Also during that time the 7th lamp on the menorah would not stay lit and the door of the Temple would not stay closed. Seven is the number of divine completion and six is the number of man, incomplete without God. So when the lamp would not stay lit, it was a signal that God was no longer with them. The door not staying shut was a sign that the Temple would soon be burned as foretold in Zech. 11:1.

“Open your doors, O Lebanon, so that fire may devour your cedars!”

All the wood work in the Temple including the doors was made of cedar from Lebanon. The delay between the Lord’s death and the Temple’s destruction was to give the people one last chance to accept the Messiah and be saved, and many did. But in God’s view, Israel had ceased to exist as of Matt. 23:38-39.

Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”

The same holds true in our time. Israel exists but is not in covenant with God, giving the gentiles one last chance to be born again. Before Israel renews the covenant following the Battle of Ezekiel 38 the church will have to disappear.